Hi guys! I’m a proud owner of this Internet TV box which is basically a device that turns an ordinary monitor into an Internet TV. It does not have a TV tuner. I kinda liken this device to an Android tablet (hehehe) but without a touchscreen panel/gyro capability (you’ll need an LCD/LED monitor/TV, preferably with an HDMI input), and it doesn’t run on batteries (you plug it directly to an AC outlet, obviously). There’s a built-in wifi but can be connected to the internet via wired LAN also (after rooting).
So I think everything you can do on an android tablet, you can also do on this box.
You can internet browse via wired/WiFi
You can download/update apps via Google play only on WiFi
You can stream via WiFi/wired
You can Ttorrent via WiFi only (weird, maybe client dependent)
A preview of what you can do with the CD-R King Android Internet TVbox
Spec wise, it has the following features:
After some tinkering for a few days, here are some thoughts and tips I wish to share:
Here is the first problem I encountered. At first, I could not get to play videos in full screen on the media player app. After much tweaking and tinkering, I found out that by using the “My Files” app (which is like a file explorer), videos play in full screen with no problem. The second difficulty I encountered was using the Google Play store. I could not install some apps using an Ethernet connection. Using WiFi instead, solved the problem.
When rooting using Gingerbreak, eventhough it says you need to insert an SD Card, don’t insert one because it won’t root. It should use the built-in flash virtual SD so you could successfully root. After rooting, I updated the superuser from the market then if an app ask for root and tells you that the su is outdated, you can update that.
I can confirm that the egreat i5 firmwares are working. You can get it from here <click here for link> in English version.
I suggest you perform factory reset first before changing/updating your firmware because mine lagged at first after the firmware update but after I did a factory restore first then updated, it went very smooth.
I just hope an ICS firmware update is already in the works.
Some things to note regarding firmwares:
a. Before trying this firmwares please root and backup the stock apps using titanium backup and save it to your computer. I think it important to backup the TV box app because egreat has branding over their default launcher of their firmwares. Also, if ever you need to claim warranty, you can return the box to its default “look”.
b. Backup system/bin/bootanimation by a file explorer with root access (eg root explorer). So you can return the CD-R King boot animation.
c. The movie/tv/game/app buttons on the remote would not work because it seems like they are mapped to certain apps on the stock CD-R King firmware. Good thing is it could still detect key events and I’m still studying how to map to launch different apps.
Bummer if it has the same codes as your television for it may cause likely interference.
I was able to try a universal remote that works with the box except for the power button. The power button seems to be paired to the hardware of the box but still working on it and trying to make at least the sleep timers to work. If you use the apps to shutdown, all it does is reboot.
d. If you installed egreat firmwares then update later on, use the update option in settings/custom/update/sd. Not like before where it is detected already if you have an update.img on the SD Card on startup.
The webcam I use is the Logitech Quickcam HD 9000. The built-in mic also works. You just have to select it at the Sound settings. Quite laggy on Skype becaus eit seems to be enabling by default the HD capability of the camera.
The Saturn cam also works but with choppy audio, video is passable, not much lags when I tried Videochat. Oovoo videochat suffers the same choppy audio so its not a Skype specific issue.
This is what I use as bluetooth dongle:
BTD-619
Evon Bluetooth USB Dongle
Php 100.00
<click here for link>
I think any dongle would be unstable and laggy at first because the system will still have to adapt. Mine worked fine after a few hours even before rooting.
I’m using it with my Wiimote for nes.emu which has a builtin Wiimote support. Just make sure to turn your Bluetooth on.
In the egreat firmware, there is no bluetooth option on the settings so I installed Bluetooth Settings Launcher <click here for link> or use the power widget.
I still don’t have a Bluetooth mouse/keyboard to test but if “paired but not connected” after pairing, please try the Bluetooth Keyboard Easyconnect <click here for link>. Please check if it will work.
Regarding the options for the mic, you can use this:
EF-0020A
USB Premier Sound Card with Virtual 7.1 Channel
Php 180.00
<click here for link>
Mine works in any apps just remember to set it at sound input/output options. Luckily, for those who want better audio, you can also use the
Encore ENMAB-8CM
7.1 Channel USB Audio Box
Php 990.00
<click here for link>
Confirmed the ENMAB USB soundcard is detected by the default CD-R King firmware but there is no audio output. Performance on stock firmware was good enough, I just noticed that my WiFi connection gets cut when I use Ttorrent. After 5 minutes of using Ttorrent my connection on the router gets lost. This doesn’t happen on any of my other apps. Anybody having the same issue with WiFi drops on Ttorrent?
For Ttorrent, after completing the torrent, you can stop Ttorrent from seeding by just long pressing the completed Ttorrent and choose pause or you can also completely disable seeding from the settings , just set maximum active seeds to 0.
I tried 5.1 speakers but it only works using 2 channels which I think is because of the limitation of the software players. AFAIK 5.1 is not yet integrated on the android except for a few headphones (but still only virtual).
BTW for those who wish to use TTS, it seems its not supported or integrated with the firmware so install this to make it work: <click here for link> The TTS options still wont be displayed on the settings but but TTS apps will now work. That’s working great for me.
Power Consumption
The actual power consumption will vary depending on what devices you plug into the USB ports and also what type of apps that the box is running. During my tests, I think the highest power consumption I’ve recorded is less than 6 watts.
When idle, the unit consumes about 2.9watts.
When playing angry birds, it jumps to 5.8watts.
When you connect a USB flash drive and the device is accessing it, the consumption is about 4.1watts
HD movies makes the unit consume 4watts.
If you connect additional devices on the USB ports, for sure the power consumption will increase.
For USB powered HDD, you need to reboot the unit before it gets detected . There is no problem for externally powered HDD.
This works on any ordinary TV via RCA jacks, but obviously of lower quality. If you want a high quality picture, use HDMI.
42 inch plasma display is OK. The display technology (LCD/plasma) wouldn’t matter as long as it has a HDMI port.
It will work with 1080p videos even above 10 gb.
I also changed the default CD-R King launcher and homescreen with the Go launcher HD.
Removing the CD-R King Animation On Boot
When Rooted Pref with a mouse
Install rootexplorer and run
Grant root access to rootexplorer
Navigate to /System/bin
Click on Mount RW
Long press on bootanimation file
Delete
Click on Mount RO
Hopefully it will restart
There is also a classy looking Silver Cube theme that you can try.
For those interested in beaming their audio, picture and video files from their iOS devices to the TV box, here’s what you will need to do:
Install twonky mobile on your ios or android mobile, Select your iOS or android library then hit select then choose the ehome media center option that comes up on the next screen then youre done!
For the rolling menus on the main screen, you can only use up to 5 but you can change or remove these icons by long pressing the icons and usually there will be an option coming out to remove them. To add you can use the settings menu to find the option. Depends on your launcher.
Using Titanium Backup Pro, remove the Skype, Facebook, Youtube, Opera etc then reinstall using Google Play. That way you can now update the apps.
*Just a note, when I first tied these devices using the stock CD-R King firmware, it didn’t work. It is detected and can be set on the settings but wont work when you try playing any audio or video through any player. But it worked when I used the egreat firmware.
To update the box:
1. Download the egreat i5 firmware from the link and unzip it. You will see an update.img file
Link http://www.sendspace.com/file/6whto9 – (This is the English Version)
2. Copy update.img to an empty SD card and insert it into the sd card slot of the cdr king internet tv box
3. Make sure you are using the default tv box launcher and navigate to
settings>custom>soft update>sd card
4. Select the file “update.img”
5. Follow instructions and wait until reboot is completed
Note: Backup your files before you attempt to update. Restore to factory settings before update results in smoother operation after update
To root:
1. Make sure USB debugging is enabled
2. Download and install Gingerbreak: Forum Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765
Direct Download Link http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?s=d7ed74d9a3acff00b3ad093670a93470&attachmentid=575276&d=1303479887
3. Make sure you dont have any sd cards or usb drives mounted
4. Install and run
5. After reboot, download root checker and confirm. Repeat steps 3 and 4 if necessary.
Note: Make sure you reboot in between rooting attempts.
To remove crapware
1. Root using Gingerbreak
2. Install titanium backup
3. Remove unwanted program – make sure you backup!
Note: I removed the Chinese input method so the onscreen keyboard will not appear when you select a text box
Note: Tried and tested these using my own unit with success. But attempt at your own risk.
Things I Do With My CD-R King Internet TV Box
1. Skype – Using a CDR-King webcam and a CD-R King USB audio device for microphone input. Working but audio is choppy even after installing the updated skype program from Play store
2. Downloading torrents – Format a 16gb flashdrive to NTFS so you can download files greater than 4 gb. Just finished downloading 14.5 gb 1080p version of The Avengers in a little less than 28 hours. Using a flash drive instead of a powered HDD reduces power consumption.
3. Using Fiio e7 as a USB DAC, I use my unit to listen to HiFi flac and alac files. I use Grado SR80/RE0 and Dunu Trident.
4. Surf the web/Facebook/email
5. Watch YouTube
6. Download mp3s.
7. Listen to Internet radio
8. View photos
Ironically, I don’t watch movies using this. I only use it to test torrents after successful downloads.
The beauty of Android is that it is very customizable. There are lots of apps available on the Play store. Once I installed Atorrent, FTP Doid, Podkicker, I was able to browse the web, download and play vidoes all from one device. Heck, it even recognized my iPad, my other media player in the living room and I can now stream from that as well.
Highly Suggested Apps For This Gadget
1. Audiobubble – allows you to stream audio from i-devices sych us iPod touch, iPhones and iPad. Detected as an airplay device.
2. Viki – streaming video app for movies
3. Veetle – another streaming video app. More on TV series
4. Moviemaze – streaming movies
5. Tunein pro – Internet radio
6. Ttorrent – for your torrenting needs
7. Blackmart alpha – alternate Android market
– Not sure if Android 4.0 ICS update will be available
Also for those with Bluetooth keyboard/mouse, please try my tip so I’ll know if it works before I buy one.
Sounds pretty good for its price of Php 2880. 6 months warranty, 1 week replacement. http://www.cdrking.com/?mod=products&type=view&sid=13874&main=167
So overall, the box is more than OK. I am pretty impressed with this little box. The media player function alone is worth the price. Being able to access the Internet on a TV unit like a proper couch potato is practically having the best of both worlds.
Thank you and I’ll update this post if there’s anything new worthy to share.
*credits to Techamuna
sir tanng ko lng kung supported ba ung unit ng 3g donggel meron bang application para mapagana un kung sakali.
isaw some of my artickes in this blog. 🙂
Good job, summarizes the 19 page forum from tipidpc.
Na try neo na po ba mag install ng ps1 emulator tas gagamit ng wired gamepad?
Thanks for these tips. Napagana ko yung blue tooth keyboard from cdr-king with your advise of installing bluetooth keyboard easy connect. The bluetooth keyboard’s link http://www.cdrking.com/?mod=products&type=view&sid=9339&main=39 The internet TV I purchased from cdrking has the same model number as the one you bought but is color white.
Very good introduction with lots of helpful details…pretty thorough examination of the product. Answered my first time questions..l had decided to buy one but it is good to know that it works on most of the things you will need. So thanks good work!
This is the complete review I had been waiting for for quite sometime. I had been considering getting this box but due to the absence of a good review, I held back. Now, I can be rest assured going ahead in getting this unit. One question though, does the unit support a 500 (or higher) gb portable HD? I have two of these loaded with movies but I need to know beforehand coz the portable HDs could come in handy during movie downloads using a torrent client. Thanks so much.
A user reported his 1 Tb portable drive works on this unit…
That’s good to know. Thanks for the prompt response.
Hi, I got mine yesterday, I am using utorrent but cant find my external hardrive in the list of choices where to download the torrent to. I can read the files from the hard drive ok. Any ideas?
I just got this internet tv box. Things i tried so far: connect to internet via wifi, facebook, play angry bird, listen to internet radio, tried watching movies but video freezes due perhaps to slow network connection. I haven’t explored everything yet. However, my initial findings are– can’t configure movies from external hard disk to play in full screen. Playing from “my files” stretches movie file but not full screen. Also, I have tried downloading via Ttorrent but the download button is greyed out. Also, I can’t seem to change the download path to an external Hard disk. Pls. I need some help here. Thanks.
My final say… stay away from this internet tv box. I have to ask for replacement after my unit which was only two days old got stuck at the cdr king logo and froze failing to boot. CDR King replaced it with an android tv box which is almost the same as the replaced unit. The android box has a built-in wifi (just like laptops) and much smaller than its older counterpart. So far, it has been a week since I got this replacement and the unit I think has been “cooked” already . Hope it stays this way for quite sometime.
i am not happy with mine, it only likes downloading torrents 20% of the time and i still havent managed to get it to play any 1080p movies, and often i just get a blank screen, going to buy a 2nd pc to connect to my tv instead
Having read the article and the comments that followed l am a little confused. Katrisha says don’t buy a CDR king tv box…hers didn’t work. The shop changed it for an Android…she says it has WiFi… I went into CDR king and on the counter was a cdr king tv box and beside it was an Adroid tv box. It seems both are almost identical…even the boxes they come are the exact same, printed in the same colors with same features… both have WiFi built in with the same 4gig except for the word ‘Android’…and l think the picture on the box maybe slightly different both having remotes…. So what is different about them…??? Does anyone know?
The only difference I know (which I mentioned in my earlier post) is the wifi. the android box doesn’t need an external antenna whereas its counterpart has an external antenna that the owner has to screw before it receives wifi signal. also, there’s a lot of difference in size (dimension). the android box is much more compact and sleek looking. otherwise, all else is identical. also, the android which is almost two weeks now seems stable. I have used it almost non-stop. And before I forget, I have to point out the box will only download via torrent using an external SD card … not with USB drive (flash or portable drive). Why? I can’t explain.
Thanks, l now understand why you said the Android had WiFi…it is built in. Sounds the better bet…l will get one of those…great to hear it’s still working. I have found CDR King have some marvelous stuff and very good value for money.
The other internet tv box (which conked out after more than a day with me) also has built-in wifi but needs an external antenna that protrudes at its back. the android doesn’t need an external antenna much like the wifi of netbooks and laptops. I wish it has more power but overall, just like you said, the unit is good value for money and I agree, CDR King has lots of good electronic/digital stuff that are inexpensive but probably not cheap.
What can you say about the quality of playing movies? I was impressed with the review until pinoytekkie mentioned this “Ironically, I don’t watch movies using this. I only use it to test torrents after successful downloads.”. Downloading and watching movies is my priority for choosing a media player. Thanks 🙂
ur right, it’s not advisable to use this for viewing downloaded movies. I find it hard to use playback controls like FF and back which I cant access via remote control. this unit is best for internet radio and torrent download. because of its low power consumption, it can be left powered on during the download process.
Hi l went and bought a CR R King Android TV Box…l have had some teething trouble…not with the box but with the staff at CD R King. I found when l got it home and set it up (I have a HD TV) but all the small print on the screen (Facebook & Emails) were such poor resolution it was impossible to read. The guy in the shop said there must be a problem with my TV and made no other suggestion other than l was wasting his time. I saw another cable and asked about it, it was a HMID High Definition and when he tried it, it solved the problem, perfect quality small print. Now what comes with the Android Box is an Anlalog cable which gives poor quality. The HD cable cost me P100…but worked only for 2 days…l took it back and they agreed to change it…l opted for a better quality one which cost P250 and paid just P150 as l got a credit for the other.
That was also my initial reaction with mine when I first hooked it up with my LED TV. I used the RCA analog cable that went with the unit. The resolution was so poor I barely can read the texts and the images smeared at the end. I used an HDMI cable which was bundled with my LED TV and voila it solved the problem of poor resolution. Hope that would be the last issue you’ll have with your android TV box. So far, there are no major issues yet with mine which I understand is identical with what you have. The manufacturer could have provided a VGA port aside from HDMI and RCA ports.
i tried to install GINGERBREAK and my antivirus AVG warned me its a virus.
sir may ics 4.0 kaba na compatinle para dito? kung meron pa link naman tnx..
Can I connect my catv cable in this box? If not, is there any cdrking smart tv box that can be connected with a catv cable so it can perform as a normal tv? Thanks!
wifi drops too after 5 mins of connection. do you have a work around this. btw how can i set for downloads to go directly to a portable drive?
is there any problem with using skype video calls? what’s the gpu of this device? will it be able to play hd games?
how to put themes?
Sir pakitest din sana kung ok sa Vimeo at CNN.COM/LIVE pati sa yahoo video at Dailymotion.
kung sino man po ang may magandang puso dyan na mag uupload ng backup rom nila dyan salamat po. brick po kasi ko.
has anyone tried using an ordinary 29″ CRT tv with the internet box?
sir pwd po bng lagyan ng controller na pang gaming console to via bt or usb? tnx
sir does this work outside the country? pasensya na wala akong alam sa android, but gusto ko dalhin abroad. does it work?
Hi how do you remove the onscreen keyboard so that the textbox would not appear?